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Is VASP capable to deal with charged slab system with NELECT?

Posted: Fri Jan 08, 2021 9:43 pm
by ziyi_wang
Dear researchers,

Our group is now conducting experiments on the physical absorption process of charged thin films. According to the FAQ part in the VASP wiki (https://www.vasp.at/wiki/index.php/FAQ), I know it would be hard to use VASP in the absorption of ions. However, is it possible for VASP to deal with the system with charged slabs?

In specific, we are looking at the van der Walls interaction between the methane molecule and the charged graphene layer. We set a vacuum layer around 20Å along the z-axis. According to the band structure, if the number of electrons is small, it would first fill in the orbit of the graphene. So if I change the NELECT slightly (0.05e for example), the graphene layer would be charged while the methane is still neutral. Then we calculate the van der Walls energy by subtracting the energy of charged graphene and the energy of neutral methane from the energy of the charged system energy. We can plot the energy versus distance curve without doing any relaxation.

My question is that, are these energy curves reliable? As I find out that when the distance between methane and graphene is far away, where the van der Walls interaction should be tiny, there is still a non-neglectable van der Walls energy difference between the systems with different charges. As shown in the attached figure.

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One of my INCAR files is shown below:

IVDW=20
LVDW_EWALD =.TRUE.

NSW=0
IBRION=-1

ISIF=2
PREC=Accurate
EDIFFG=1e-6
LWAVE=.F.
LCHARG=.F.
ISMEAR=-5
LORBIT=11
SIGMA=0.05
EDIFF=1e-7
ALGO=Fast
SYMPREC=1e-7

NELECT=136.0500

NPAR=16
KPAR=8

Thank you very much for any possible help!

Best regards,

Ziyi

Re: Is VASP capable to deal with charged slab system with NELECT?

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2021 7:47 am
by martin.schlipf
In general there is an issue because of the periodic replica of the added charge. This is something VASP does not intrinsically cancel automatically, so you need to find a way to address this. What you can easily try is changing the vacuum size, if your workflow is reliably canceling out this spurious interaction, you should not see a dependence on vacuum size.

I would also like to point out the work of Mauricio Chagas da Silva et al. They have collaborated with us on that project to get this feature as an external add-on compatible the upcoming release of VASP 6.2. It seems that their correction is relevant to what you want to do.

Re: Is VASP capable to deal with charged slab system with NELECT?

Posted: Thu Jan 28, 2021 11:49 pm
by bo_peng
Hi Martin,

Thank you for the clarification! Are there any tutorials/examples in the newly released VASP.6.2.0 for the charged slab corrections?

Best regards,
Bo

Re: Is VASP capable to deal with charged slab system with NELECT?

Posted: Fri Jan 29, 2021 7:26 am
by martin.schlipf
Unfortunately, there is no such tutorial so far. This is a very recent feature and the paper seems not even to be officially out yet. I suggest to contact the original authors of this feature, perhaps they may give you a hand.

Re: Is VASP capable to deal with charged slab system with NELECT?

Posted: Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:07 pm
by ziyi_wang
Thanks a lot, Martin! I am trying to use relative energy to solve this problem. I would also read the paper you posted. Thanks again.